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	Needing a Starship}}'''>Causer. Maker. Tinker. Meddler. Destroyer.''' From misopathy to philanthropy, this concept and its entailing dogma is the key contributor around which the [[GDC]] is centered for debate. Not beholden to brand, region, version, translation, nor context, it is the all-attributing attributelessness that makes this concept so enticing to be set as a placeholder for phenomena not yet (or already) explained.		Needing a Starship}}'''>Causer. Maker. Tinker. Meddler. Destroyer.''' From misopathy to philanthropy, this concept and its entailing dogma is the key contributor around which the [[GDC]] is centered for debate. Not beholden to brand, region, version, translation, nor context, it is the all-attributing attributelessness that makes this concept so enticing to be set as a placeholder for phenomena not yet (or already) explained.
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	<nowiki> </nowiki> > “One must state it plainly. Religion comes from the period of human prehistory where nobody—not even the mighty Democritus who concluded that all matter was made from atoms—had the smallest idea what was going on. It comes from the bawling and fearful infancy of our species, and is a babyish attempt to meet our inescapable demand for knowledge (as well as for comfort, reassurance and other infantile needs). Today the least educated of my children knows much more about the natural order than any of the founders of religion, and one would like to think—though the connection is not a fully demonstrable one—that this is why they seem so uninterested in sending fellow humans to hell.” ― ''Christopher Hitchens, God is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything''		<nowiki> </nowiki> > “One must state it plainly. Religion comes from the period of human prehistory where nobody—not even the mighty Democritus who concluded that all matter was made from atoms—had the smallest idea what was going on. It comes from the bawling and fearful infancy of our species, and is a babyish attempt to meet our inescapable demand for knowledge (as well as for comfort, reassurance and other infantile needs). Today the least educated of my children knows much more about the natural order than any of the founders of religion, and one would like to think—though the connection is not a fully demonstrable one—that this is why they seem so uninterested in sending fellow humans to hell.” ― ''Christopher Hitchens, God is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything''

	> “The idea of ~~“Ten Commandments”~~ is a deeply compelling one. It combines two impulses that are ingrained in our nature as human beings: making lists of ten things, and telling other people how to behave.” ― ''Sean Carroll, The Big Picture: On the Origins of Life, Meaning, and the Universe Itself''		> “The idea of 'Ten Commandments' is a deeply compelling one. It combines two impulses that are ingrained in our nature as human beings: making lists of ten things, and telling other people how to behave.” ― ''Sean Carroll, The Big Picture: On the Origins of Life, Meaning, and the Universe Itself''

	> "What does God need with a starship?" ― ''Admiral James T. Kirk, Star Trek V: The Final Frontier''		> "What does God need with a starship?" ― ''Admiral James T. Kirk, Star Trek V: The Final Frontier''
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	A scourge to thee, thy father, and thy line." ('''''The Illiad''''')		A scourge to thee, thy father, and thy line." ('''''The Illiad''''')

	'''<u>~~Scientology~~ Claims:</u>'''		'''<u>Scientologist Claims:</u>'''

	> "A mechanism used in dianetics is the valence shift.		> "A mechanism used in dianetics is the valence shift.
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	(excerpts from "Biology of the New Intelligent Design <id>)		(excerpts from "Biology of the New Intelligent Design <id>)

	".......'''''P10. He will be back on ~~earth~~ physically.''' One of the most strict and difficult criteria in natural methodology in the topic of the existence of an Intelligent Agent or Intelligent Designer is this criterion. There are many invented deities, gods, lords, and goddesses in the world that are being worshipped by many religious people – some are new and some were old, some probably are coming soon. Many people invented their own gods, goddesses, and deities. Religions and religious people, especially those who are very good public speakers with strong public charisma, can make their own gods and goddesses; they can make a “god” out of “dirt”. Since some countries are giving their citizens freedom to worship any deities that they wanted to, it is also imperative that they could also make any kinds of religions that they also wanted to – except for those religions or groups that will violate the existing laws of the land. Some countries force their citizens to worship the god that that countries had designated to be as their “god”. (In addition, we should not forget that there are many who claimed that aliens and UFO’s exist, so basically, anybody can claim anything just like religious people.)"<br>.......''P11 However, our world had already an existing religions in our time, from the very early human civilizations and until now, and from the time humans amazed and wondered at the hugeness of the universe - and many religions are actually active today, 2013. So, what are the differences between the old religions to the new religions and to the future religions that will be formed? None since both is worshipping a deity or deities. Nevertheless, how can we test, verify, demonstrate, confirm, and falsify the existence of those deities offered to us by the market of religions from religious people and religious salespersons? The only way for us to know is to use natural methodology in science by using the Samurai Sword, the categorization process or method. Let those deities, if it is real, appear in physical form!"<br>.......P17 That means the real Intelligent Agent or Designer or the real Almighty God has a dual nature and must, a necessary to Him, to come down from Heaven and let the earth see Him and witness His power – physically. I call that principle or rule of thumb in terms of religious claims for science as the '''Pinoy Razor''', 'That if the existence of the claimed God or worshipped Deity by religious people is actually real, then that God should appear in physical form for the entire world to see or confirm.'” - from [[MrIntelligentDesign]]''		".......'''''P10. He will be back on Earth physically.''' One of the most strict and difficult criteria in natural methodology in the topic of the existence of an Intelligent Agent or Intelligent Designer is this criterion. There are many invented deities, gods, lords, and goddesses in the world that are being worshipped by many religious people – some are new and some were old, some probably are coming soon. Many people invented their own gods, goddesses, and deities. Religions and religious people, especially those who are very good public speakers with strong public charisma, can make their own gods and goddesses; they can make a “god” out of “dirt”. Since some countries are giving their citizens freedom to worship any deities that they wanted to, it is also imperative that they could also make any kinds of religions that they also wanted to – except for those religions or groups that will violate the existing laws of the land. Some countries force their citizens to worship the god that that countries had designated to be as their “god”. (In addition, we should not forget that there are many who claimed that aliens and UFO’s exist, so basically, anybody can claim anything just like religious people.)"<br>.......''P11 However, our world had already an existing religions in our time, from the very early human civilizations and until now, and from the time humans amazed and wondered at the hugeness of the universe - and many religions are actually active today, 2013. So, what are the differences between the old religions to the new religions and to the future religions that will be formed? None since both is worshipping a deity or deities. Nevertheless, how can we test, verify, demonstrate, confirm, and falsify the existence of those deities offered to us by the market of religions from religious people and religious salespersons? The only way for us to know is to use natural methodology in science by using the Samurai Sword, the categorization process or method. Let those deities, if it is real, appear in physical form!"<br>.......P17 That means the real Intelligent Agent or Designer or the real Almighty God has a dual nature and must, a necessary to Him, to come down from Heaven and let the earth see Him and witness His power – physically. I call that principle or rule of thumb in terms of religious claims for science as the '''Pinoy Razor''', 'That if the existence of the claimed God or worshipped Deity by religious people is actually real, then that God should appear in physical form for the entire world to see or confirm.'” - from [[MrIntelligentDesign]]

			(If someone else would like to add something to this sub-section that makes some degree of sense, please do.) -An Atheist that cares :)''<nowiki/>''

	'''<u>Hindu Claims:</u>'''		'''<u>Hindu Claims:</u>'''
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	# Bhūtātmā: The essence of all beings.		# Bhūtātmā: The essence of all beings.
	# Bhūta-bhāvanaḥ: He who originates and develops all Elements.		# Bhūta-bhāvanaḥ: He who originates and develops all Elements.
	~~(to be continued...)~~

			=== (to be continued...) ===
	[[Category:GDC Lexicon]]		[[Category:GDC Lexicon]]

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	> "What does God need with a starship?" ― ''Admiral James T. Kirk, Star Trek V: The Final Frontier''		> "What does God need with a starship?" ― ''Admiral James T. Kirk, Star Trek V: The Final Frontier''

	> "Religion has ACTUALLY CONVINCED PEOPLE that's there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do every minute of every day, and the invisible man has a special list of ''ten things he does not want you to do''! And, if you do ANY of these ten things, he has a special place full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time... but he loves you![https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r-e2NDSTuE .....]" ― ''George Carlin'' [[File:Download (1).jpg\|thumb\|256x256px\|God ~~wondering~~ why he ~~made~~ [[G Man]] such a ~~dumbfuck.~~]]		> "Religion has ACTUALLY CONVINCED PEOPLE that's there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do every minute of every day, and the invisible man has a special list of ''ten things he does not want you to do''! And, if you do ANY of these ten things, he has a special place full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time... but he loves you![https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r-e2NDSTuE .....]" ― ''George Carlin'' [[File:Download (1).jpg\|thumb\|256x256px\|God Wondering why he Made [[G Man]] such a Dumbfuck]]

	== Specific Religions' Views on God(s) ==		== Specific Religions' Views on God(s) ==

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	> "What does God need with a starship?" ― ''Admiral James T. Kirk, Star Trek V: The Final Frontier''		> "What does God need with a starship?" ― ''Admiral James T. Kirk, Star Trek V: The Final Frontier''

	> "Religion has ACTUALLY CONVINCED PEOPLE that's there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do every minute of every day, and the invisible man has a special list of ''ten things he does not want you to do''! And, if you do ANY of these ten things, he has a special place full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time... but he loves you![https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r-e2NDSTuE .....]" ― ''George Carlin'' [[File:Download (1).jpg\|thumb\|256x256px]]		> "Religion has ACTUALLY CONVINCED PEOPLE that's there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do every minute of every day, and the invisible man has a special list of ''ten things he does not want you to do''! And, if you do ANY of these ten things, he has a special place full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time... but he loves you![https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r-e2NDSTuE .....]" ― ''George Carlin'' [[File:Download (1).jpg\|thumb\|256x256px\|God wondering why he made [[G Man]] such a dumbfuck.]]

	== Specific Religions' Views on God(s) ==		== Specific Religions' Views on God(s) ==

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	> “The idea of “Ten Commandments” is a deeply compelling one. It combines two impulses that are ingrained in our nature as human beings: making lists of ten things, and telling other people how to behave.” ― ''Sean Carroll, The Big Picture: On the Origins of Life, Meaning, and the Universe Itself''		> “The idea of “Ten Commandments” is a deeply compelling one. It combines two impulses that are ingrained in our nature as human beings: making lists of ten things, and telling other people how to behave.” ― ''Sean Carroll, The Big Picture: On the Origins of Life, Meaning, and the Universe Itself''

	> "What does ~~god~~ need with a starship?" ― ''Admiral James T. Kirk'' [[File:Download (1).jpg\|thumb\|256x256px]]		> "What does God need with a starship?" ― ''Admiral James T. Kirk, Star Trek V: The Final Frontier''

			> "Religion has ACTUALLY CONVINCED PEOPLE that's there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do every minute of every day, and the invisible man has a special list of ''ten things he does not want you to do''! And, if you do ANY of these ten things, he has a special place full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time... but he loves you![https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r-e2NDSTuE .....]" ― ''George Carlin'' [[File:Download (1).jpg\|thumb\|256x256px]]

	== Specific Religions' Views on God(s) ==		== Specific Religions' Views on God(s) ==

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	> "What does god need with a starship?" ― ''Admiral James T. Kirk'' [[File:Download (1).jpg\|thumb\|256x256px]]		> "What does god need with a starship?" ― ''Admiral James T. Kirk'' [[File:Download (1).jpg\|thumb\|256x256px]]

	== Specific ~~Religion~~'s Views on God(s) ==		== Specific Religions' Views on God(s) ==
	'''<u>Buddhist Claims:</u>'''		'''<u>Buddhist Claims:</u>'''

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	>'''Cryptographer. Oracular. Indicter. Confuser. Prosecutor.''' The very grandiloquence required to write a wiki page about an all-powerful catch-all should be enough to turn you off to the concept. Though there are sincere and even perhaps rational believers, beware those that use this ill-defined construct as a crutch for their own ignorance. If their grand designer saw fit not to equip them with a cogent argument outside an appeal to the magical or mysterious, that's really not your problem.		>'''Cryptographer. Oracular. Indicter. Confuser. Prosecutor.''' The very grandiloquence required to write a wiki page about an all-powerful catch-all should be enough to turn you off to the concept. Though there are sincere and even perhaps rational believers, beware those that use this ill-defined construct as a crutch for their own ignorance. If their grand designer saw fit not to equip them with a cogent argument outside an appeal to the magical or mysterious, that's really not your problem.

	'''>Monger. Redeemer. Expropriator. Comforter. Torturer.''' With so much to say, perhaps we should leave the rest to the debates. Should there be rationale demonstrated or even, (dare I say it?) evidence presented that indicates your version of your god concept positively exists in reality~~? Please~~ contact the ''James Randi Foundation'' and the ''Nobel Foundation'' for your money and prizes.		'''>Monger. Redeemer. Expropriator. Comforter. Torturer.''' With so much to say, perhaps we should leave the rest to the debates. Should there be rationale demonstrated or even (dare I say it?) evidence presented that indicates your version of your god concept positively exists in reality, please contact the ''James Randi Foundation'' and the ''Nobel Foundation'' for your money and prizes.
	== Atheistic/Non-theist Views on God(s) ==		== Atheistic/Non-theist Views on God(s) ==
	> "And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence." ― ''Bertrand Russell''		> "And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence." ― ''Bertrand Russell''

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	(excerpts from "Biology of the New Intelligent Design <id>)		(excerpts from "Biology of the New Intelligent Design <id>)

	'''''P10. He will be back on earth physically.''' One of the most strict and difficult criteria in natural methodology in the topic of the existence of an Intelligent Agent or Intelligent Designer is this criterion. There are many invented deities, gods, lords, and goddesses in the world that are being worshipped by many religious people – some are new and some were old, some probably are coming soon. Many people invented their own gods, goddesses, and deities. Religions and religious people, especially those who are very good public speakers with strong public charisma, can make their own gods and goddesses; they can make a “god” out of “dirt”. Since some countries are giving their citizens freedom to worship any deities that they wanted to, it is also imperative that they could also make any kinds of religions that they also wanted to – except for those religions or groups that will violate the existing laws of the land. Some countries force their citizens to worship the god that that countries had designated to be as their “god”. (In addition, we should not forget that there are many who claimed that aliens and UFO’s exist, so basically, anybody can claim anything just like religious people.)<br>		.......'''''P10. He will be back on earth physically.''' One of the most strict and difficult criteria in natural methodology in the topic of the existence of an Intelligent Agent or Intelligent Designer is this criterion. There are many invented deities, gods, lords, and goddesses in the world that are being worshipped by many religious people – some are new and some were old, some probably are coming soon. Many people invented their own gods, goddesses, and deities. Religions and religious people, especially those who are very good public speakers with strong public charisma, can make their own gods and goddesses; they can make a “god” out of “dirt”. Since some countries are giving their citizens freedom to worship any deities that they wanted to, it is also imperative that they could also make any kinds of religions that they also wanted to – except for those religions or groups that will violate the existing laws of the land. Some countries force their citizens to worship the god that that countries had designated to be as their “god”. (In addition, we should not forget that there are many who claimed that aliens and UFO’s exist, so basically, anybody can claim anything just like religious people.)<br>.......''P11However, our world had already an existing religions in our time, from the very early human civilizations and until now, and from the time humans amazed and wondered at the hugeness of the universe - and many religions are actually active today, 2013. So, what are the differences between the old religions to the new religions and to the future religions that will be formed? None since both is worshipping a deity or deities. Nevertheless, how can we test, verify, demonstrate, confirm, and falsify the existence of those deities offered to us by the market of religions from religious people and religious salespersons? The only way for us to know is to use natural methodology in science by using the Samurai Sword, the categorization process or method. Let those deities, if it is real, appear in physical form!<br>.......P17That means the real Intelligent Agent or Designer or the real Almighty God has a dual nature and must, a necessary to Him, to come down from Heaven and let the earth see Him and witness His power – physically. I call that principle or rule of thumb in terms of religious claims for science as the '''Pinoy Razor''', “That if the existence of the claimed God or worshipped Deity by religious people is actually real, then that God should appear in physical form for the entire world to see or confirm.” - from [[MrIntelligentDesign]]''
	'' ''P11However, our world had already an existing religions in our time, from the very early human civilizations and until now, and from the time humans amazed and wondered at the hugeness of the universe - and many religions are actually active today, 2013. So, what are the differences between the old religions to the new religions and to the future religions that will be formed? None since both is worshipping a deity or deities. Nevertheless, how can we test, verify, demonstrate, confirm, and falsify the existence of those deities offered to us by the market of religions from religious people and religious salespersons? The only way for us to know is to use natural methodology in science by using the Samurai Sword, the categorization process or method. Let those deities, if it is real, appear in physical form!<br>
	~~'' ''~~P17That means the real Intelligent Agent or Designer or the real Almighty God has a dual nature and must, a necessary to Him, to come down from Heaven and let the earth see Him and witness His power – physically. I call that principle or rule of thumb in terms of religious claims for science as the '''Pinoy Razor''', “That if the existence of the claimed God or worshipped Deity by religious people is actually real, then that God should appear in physical form for the entire world to see or confirm.”'' - from [[MrIntelligentDesign]]

	'''<u>Hindu Claims:</u>'''		'''<u>Hindu Claims:</u>'''

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	<strong>''John 8:58''</strong>'' - Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.'' - King James Version ''(KJV)''		<strong>''John 8:58''</strong>'' - Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.'' - King James Version ''(KJV)''

	''"I Am That I Am"'' simply means ''"I am the existence and I am existing"''. Thus, the new Intelligent Design <id> had made this Intelligent Agent (''IA''), aka God (Jesus Christ), as the Candidate for the Designer of everything/existence. - from [[MrIntelligentDesign]]		''"I Am That I Am"'' simply means ''"I am the existence and I am existing"''. Thus, the new Intelligent Design <id> had made this Intelligent Agent (''IA''), aka God (Jesus Christ), as the Candidate for the Designer of everything/existence.

			'''HOW TO TEST THE CLAIMS from religious people about "God"?'''

			(excerpts from "Biology of the New Intelligent Design <id>)

			'''''P10. He will be back on earth physically.''' One of the most strict and difficult criteria in natural methodology in the topic of the existence of an Intelligent Agent or Intelligent Designer is this criterion. There are many invented deities, gods, lords, and goddesses in the world that are being worshipped by many religious people – some are new and some were old, some probably are coming soon. Many people invented their own gods, goddesses, and deities. Religions and religious people, especially those who are very good public speakers with strong public charisma, can make their own gods and goddesses; they can make a “god” out of “dirt”. Since some countries are giving their citizens freedom to worship any deities that they wanted to, it is also imperative that they could also make any kinds of religions that they also wanted to – except for those religions or groups that will violate the existing laws of the land. Some countries force their citizens to worship the god that that countries had designated to be as their “god”. (In addition, we should not forget that there are many who claimed that aliens and UFO’s exist, so basically, anybody can claim anything just like religious people.)<br>
			'' ''P11However, our world had already an existing religions in our time, from the very early human civilizations and until now, and from the time humans amazed and wondered at the hugeness of the universe - and many religions are actually active today, 2013. So, what are the differences between the old religions to the new religions and to the future religions that will be formed? None since both is worshipping a deity or deities. Nevertheless, how can we test, verify, demonstrate, confirm, and falsify the existence of those deities offered to us by the market of religions from religious people and religious salespersons? The only way for us to know is to use natural methodology in science by using the Samurai Sword, the categorization process or method. Let those deities, if it is real, appear in physical form!<br>
			'' ''P17That means the real Intelligent Agent or Designer or the real Almighty God has a dual nature and must, a necessary to Him, to come down from Heaven and let the earth see Him and witness His power – physically. I call that principle or rule of thumb in terms of religious claims for science as the '''Pinoy Razor''', “That if the existence of the claimed God or worshipped Deity by religious people is actually real, then that God should appear in physical form for the entire world to see or confirm.”'' - from [[MrIntelligentDesign]]

	'''<u>Hindu Claims:</u>'''		'''<u>Hindu Claims:</u>'''

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	Needing a Starship}}'''>Causer. Maker. Tinker. Meddler. Destroyer.''' From misopathy to philanthropy, this concept and its entailing dogma is the key contributor around which the [[GDC]] is centered for debate. Not beholden to brand, region, version, translation, nor context, it is the all-attributing attributelessness that makes this concept so enticing to be set as placeholder for phenomena not yet (or already) explained.		Needing a Starship}}'''>Causer. Maker. Tinker. Meddler. Destroyer.''' From misopathy to philanthropy, this concept and its entailing dogma is the key contributor around which the [[GDC]] is centered for debate. Not beholden to brand, region, version, translation, nor context, it is the all-attributing attributelessness that makes this concept so enticing to be set as a placeholder for phenomena not yet (or already) explained.

	'''>Automaton. Benefactor. Saboteur. Provocateur. Voyeur.''' All of these words properly describe the concept of gods, but none of them describe the god of the person you are currently debating. Saying ''"aw, but I can explain all that with my god!"'' We know they can, we could explain it too; it is not difficult coming up with ex-post facto justifications when you have a poorly defined being that conceptually can fix any problem for you. Such is the pursuit of rational discourse. Getting your interlocutor to elucidate the characteristics of their god in a way that would progress the conversation forward makes you want to go back to debating the definition of the word ''"atheism"''.'''*'''		'''>Automaton. Benefactor. Saboteur. Provocateur. Voyeur.''' All of these words properly describe the concept of gods, but none of them describe the god of the person you are currently debating. Saying ''"aw, but I can explain all that with my god!"'' We know they can, we could explain it too; it is not difficult coming up with ex-post facto justifications when you have a poorly defined being that conceptually can fix any problem for you. Such is the pursuit of rational discourse. Getting your interlocutor to elucidate the characteristics of their god in a way that would progress the conversation forward makes you want to go back to debating the definition of the word ''"atheism." '''''*'''

	'''''*'''This is not an invitation to start debating the meaning of the word "atheism." Stop it. No, you heard me. Stop it. Don't make me pull this wiki over.''		'''''*'''This is not an invitation to start debating the meaning of the word "atheism." Stop it. No, you heard me. Stop it. Don't make me pull this wiki over.''
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	>'''Cryptographer. Oracular. Indicter. Confuser. Prosecutor.''' The very grandiloquence required to write a wiki page about an all-powerful catch-all should be enough to turn you off to the concept. Though there are sincere and even perhaps rational believers, beware those that use this ill-defined construct as a crutch for their own ignorance. If their grand designer saw fit not to equip them with a cogent argument outside an appeal to the magical or mysterious, that's really not your problem.		>'''Cryptographer. Oracular. Indicter. Confuser. Prosecutor.''' The very grandiloquence required to write a wiki page about an all-powerful catch-all should be enough to turn you off to the concept. Though there are sincere and even perhaps rational believers, beware those that use this ill-defined construct as a crutch for their own ignorance. If their grand designer saw fit not to equip them with a cogent argument outside an appeal to the magical or mysterious, that's really not your problem.

	'''>Monger. Redeemer. Expropriator. Comforter. Torturer.''' With so much to say, perhaps we should leave the rest to the debates. Should there be rationale demonstrated or even, (dare I say it?) evidence presented that indicates your version of your god concept positively exists in reality~~, please~~ contact the ''James Randi Foundation'' and the ''Nobel Foundation'' for your money and prizes.		'''>Monger. Redeemer. Expropriator. Comforter. Torturer.''' With so much to say, perhaps we should leave the rest to the debates. Should there be rationale demonstrated or even, (dare I say it?) evidence presented that indicates your version of your god concept positively exists in reality? Please contact the ''James Randi Foundation'' and the ''Nobel Foundation'' for your money and prizes.
	== Atheistic/Non-theist Views on God(s) ==		== Atheistic/Non-theist Views on God(s) ==
	> And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence -- ''Bertrand Russell''		> "And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence." ― ''Bertrand Russell''

	> "I do not need the idea of God to explain the world I live in." ''Salman Rushdie''		> "I do not need the idea of God to explain the world I live in." ― ''Salman Rushdie''

	> "Every generation is suborned in its favor. Those who dissent from it are losers, those who oppose it are ostracised; while in the past, for century after century, it has replied to criticism with imprisonment, and to scepticism with the dungeon and the stake. By such means it has induced a general tendency to allow its pretensions without inquiry and its beneficence without proof.” ― ''Joseph Mazzini Wheeler, Crimes of Christianity''		> "Every generation is suborned in its favor. Those who dissent from it are losers, those who oppose it are ostracised; while in the past, for century after century, it has replied to criticism with imprisonment, and to scepticism with the dungeon and the stake. By such means it has induced a general tendency to allow its pretensions without inquiry and its beneficence without proof.” ― ''Joseph Mazzini Wheeler, Crimes of Christianity''

	> "If you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people." ~~---~~ ''Dr. Gregory House''		> "If you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people." ― ''Dr. Gregory House''

	> “The president of the United States has claimed, on more than one occasion, to be in dialogue with God. If he said that he was talking to God through his hairdryer, this would precipitate a national emergency. I fail to see how the addition of a hairdryer makes the claim more ridiculous or offensive.” ― ''Sam Harris, Letter to a Christian Nation''		> “The president of the United States has claimed, on more than one occasion, to be in dialogue with God. If he said that he was talking to God through his hairdryer, this would precipitate a national emergency. I fail to see how the addition of a hairdryer makes the claim more ridiculous or offensive.” ― ''Sam Harris, Letter to a Christian Nation''
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	> “The idea of “Ten Commandments” is a deeply compelling one. It combines two impulses that are ingrained in our nature as human beings: making lists of ten things, and telling other people how to behave.” ― ''Sean Carroll, The Big Picture: On the Origins of Life, Meaning, and the Universe Itself''		> “The idea of “Ten Commandments” is a deeply compelling one. It combines two impulses that are ingrained in our nature as human beings: making lists of ten things, and telling other people how to behave.” ― ''Sean Carroll, The Big Picture: On the Origins of Life, Meaning, and the Universe Itself''

	> "What does god need with a starship?" ~~---~~ ''Admiral James T. Kirk'' [[File:Download (1).jpg\|thumb\|256x256px]]		> "What does god need with a starship?" ― ''Admiral James T. Kirk'' [[File:Download (1).jpg\|thumb\|256x256px]]

	== Specific Religion's Views on God(s) ==		== Specific Religion's Views on God(s) ==
	'''<u>Buddhist Claims:</u>'''		'''<u>Buddhist Claims:</u>'''

	> Overcome anger by love; overcome wrong by good;overcome the miserly by generosity, and the liar by truth.		> Overcome anger by love; overcome wrong by good; overcome the miserly by generosity, and the liar by truth.
	Speak the truth; do not yield to anger;		Speak the truth; do not yield to anger;
	give even if asked for a little.		give even if asked for a little.
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	'''<u>Norse Claims:</u>'''		'''<u>Norse Claims:</u>'''

	> 26. In swelling rage \| then rose up Thor,--		> "26. In swelling rage \| then rose up Thor,--
	Seldom he sits \| when he such things hears,--		Seldom he sits \| when he such things hears,--
	And the oaths were broken, \| the words and bonds,		And the oaths were broken, \| the words and bonds,
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	Under the high-reaching \| holy tree;		Under the high-reaching \| holy tree;
	On it there pours \| from Valfather's pledge		On it there pours \| from Valfather's pledge
	A mighty stream: \| would you know yet more? ('''''The Poetic Edda''''')		A mighty stream: \| would you know yet more?" ('''''The Poetic Edda''''')

	'''<u>Classical Greek/Roman Claims:</u>'''		'''<u>Classical Greek/Roman Claims:</u>'''

	> His first-born I, the third from Jupiter:		> "His first-born I, the third from Jupiter:
	O'er spacious Crete, and her bold sons, I reign,		O'er spacious Crete, and her bold sons, I reign,
	And thence my ships transport me through the main:		And thence my ships transport me through the main:
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	'''>Intelligent Agent (''IA''). Intelligent Designer (''ID-er'').''' In the science of the new Intelligent Design <id>, ''God'' is simply the ''"Source of existence"'' or simply called as the ''"Intelligent Agent (IA) who had intelligently designed (intellen) everything that we know of and we don't know of"''. This Source of existence is parallel to the Christian God who had claimed through the Bible this claim:		'''>Intelligent Agent (''IA''). Intelligent Designer (''ID-er'').''' In the science of the new Intelligent Design <id>, ''God'' is simply the ''"Source of existence"'' or simply called as the ''"Intelligent Agent (IA) who had intelligently designed (intellen) everything that we know of and we don't know of"''. This Source of existence is parallel to the Christian God who had claimed through the Bible this claim:

	'''Exodus 3:14''' - ''And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you.'' - King James Version'' (KJV)''		'''Exodus 3:14''' - "''And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you."'' ― King James Version'' (KJV)''

	<strong>''John 8:58''</strong>'' - Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.'' - King James Version ''(KJV)''		<strong>''John 8:58''</strong>'' - "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am."'' ― King James Version ''(KJV)''

	''"I Am That I Am"'' simply means ''"I am the existence and I am existing"''. Thus, the new Intelligent Design <id> had made this Intelligent Agent (''IA''), aka God (Jesus Christ), as the Candidate for the Designer of everything/existence.		''"I Am That I Am"'' simply means ''"I am the existence and I am existing"''. Thus, the new Intelligent Design <id> had made this Intelligent Agent (''IA''), aka God (Jesus Christ), as the Candidate for the Designer of everything/existence.

	'''HOW TO TEST THE CLAIMS from religious people about "God"?'''		'''HOW TO TEST THE CLAIMS from religious people about "God?"'''

	(excerpts from "Biology of the New Intelligent Design <id>)		(excerpts from "Biology of the New Intelligent Design <id>)

	.......'''''P10. He will be back on earth physically.''' One of the most strict and difficult criteria in natural methodology in the topic of the existence of an Intelligent Agent or Intelligent Designer is this criterion. There are many invented deities, gods, lords, and goddesses in the world that are being worshipped by many religious people – some are new and some were old, some probably are coming soon. Many people invented their own gods, goddesses, and deities. Religions and religious people, especially those who are very good public speakers with strong public charisma, can make their own gods and goddesses; they can make a “god” out of “dirt”. Since some countries are giving their citizens freedom to worship any deities that they wanted to, it is also imperative that they could also make any kinds of religions that they also wanted to – except for those religions or groups that will violate the existing laws of the land. Some countries force their citizens to worship the god that that countries had designated to be as their “god”. (In addition, we should not forget that there are many who claimed that aliens and UFO’s exist, so basically, anybody can claim anything just like religious people.)<br>.......''~~P11However~~, our world had already an existing religions in our time, from the very early human civilizations and until now, and from the time humans amazed and wondered at the hugeness of the universe - and many religions are actually active today, 2013. So, what are the differences between the old religions to the new religions and to the future religions that will be formed? None since both is worshipping a deity or deities. Nevertheless, how can we test, verify, demonstrate, confirm, and falsify the existence of those deities offered to us by the market of religions from religious people and religious salespersons? The only way for us to know is to use natural methodology in science by using the Samurai Sword, the categorization process or method. Let those deities, if it is real, appear in physical form!<br>.......~~P17That~~ means the real Intelligent Agent or Designer or the real Almighty God has a dual nature and must, a necessary to Him, to come down from Heaven and let the earth see Him and witness His power – physically. I call that principle or rule of thumb in terms of religious claims for science as the '''Pinoy Razor''', ~~“That~~ if the existence of the claimed God or worshipped Deity by religious people is actually real, then that God should appear in physical form for the entire world to see or confirm.” - from [[MrIntelligentDesign]]''		".......'''''P10. He will be back on earth physically.''' One of the most strict and difficult criteria in natural methodology in the topic of the existence of an Intelligent Agent or Intelligent Designer is this criterion. There are many invented deities, gods, lords, and goddesses in the world that are being worshipped by many religious people – some are new and some were old, some probably are coming soon. Many people invented their own gods, goddesses, and deities. Religions and religious people, especially those who are very good public speakers with strong public charisma, can make their own gods and goddesses; they can make a “god” out of “dirt”. Since some countries are giving their citizens freedom to worship any deities that they wanted to, it is also imperative that they could also make any kinds of religions that they also wanted to – except for those religions or groups that will violate the existing laws of the land. Some countries force their citizens to worship the god that that countries had designated to be as their “god”. (In addition, we should not forget that there are many who claimed that aliens and UFO’s exist, so basically, anybody can claim anything just like religious people.)"<br>.......''P11 However, our world had already an existing religions in our time, from the very early human civilizations and until now, and from the time humans amazed and wondered at the hugeness of the universe - and many religions are actually active today, 2013. So, what are the differences between the old religions to the new religions and to the future religions that will be formed? None since both is worshipping a deity or deities. Nevertheless, how can we test, verify, demonstrate, confirm, and falsify the existence of those deities offered to us by the market of religions from religious people and religious salespersons? The only way for us to know is to use natural methodology in science by using the Samurai Sword, the categorization process or method. Let those deities, if it is real, appear in physical form!"<br>.......P17 That means the real Intelligent Agent or Designer or the real Almighty God has a dual nature and must, a necessary to Him, to come down from Heaven and let the earth see Him and witness His power – physically. I call that principle or rule of thumb in terms of religious claims for science as the '''Pinoy Razor''', 'That if the existence of the claimed God or worshipped Deity by religious people is actually real, then that God should appear in physical form for the entire world to see or confirm.'” - from [[MrIntelligentDesign]]''

	'''<u>Hindu Claims:</u>'''		'''<u>Hindu Claims:</u>'''